2005-07-02 - Molson Park - Barrie, ON

[Problem Bear]

I agree that the die-hards may like anything no matter what, but I don't think I can bridge the gap to then say that noone else could have liked that performance. I would also say that it is unfair to say that die-hards are not capable of critiquing.

Also, define "die-hard". I would consider myself a die-hard. Nobody in my neck of the woods likely loves the hip half as much as me, but compared to some people on this board for instance, I ain't a die-hard at all.
Are you trying to define "die-hard" by saying it is the line in the sand at whether or not you liked the Live8 show? Seems like it - "litmus test" is the phrase you used there. That seems a bit too black-or-white to me, but I do kindof agree to a point though....
A couple questions:
Did the Hip gain any new fans because of Live 8?
Did the Hip lose any fans because of Live 8?

No, you're absolutely right on all counts.

I was being rigid and black-and-white for argument's sake. I wrote my post because I was incredulous about the poster who said, "That should be on the DVD!" (I think I'm also building up resentment because I seem to be the only person on this board who doesn't like it when Gord screams.) But I relent.

I'll stop disagreeing with opinions on this board (for at least a day) and get back to explaining to friends that I'm not crazy for loving the Hip just as much now as they did 12 years ago.

Cheers,
John

[the Doctorb]

... Gord's never been Frank Sinatra, nor has he ever needed to be. Gord to me has always been energy, eratic behaviour and entertaining ad-libs on stage. He's elegant on paper and in the studio, he's energy on stage. He works live like he doesn't give a shit; he's more punk rock than pop rock and I love him for it. Use it up.

One of the best summaries of Gord that I've read in a long time. Well said SD.
To side with Problem Bear for a moment, I don't like it when Gord SCREAMS instead of sings. But I've noticed that this tends to happen more while the performance is a television broadcast, or when the sound is not completely under the bands control.
Just my two cents though. I love the band, Gord is a genius when it comes to lyrics and performance. nuff said.
Doc

[NMAS]

... Gord's never been Frank Sinatra, nor has he ever needed to be. Gord to me has always been energy, eratic behaviour and entertaining ad-libs on stage. He's elegant on paper and in the studio, he's energy on stage. He works live like he doesn't give a shit; he's more punk rock than pop rock and I love him for it. Use it up.

One of the best summaries of Gord that I've read in a long time. Well said SD.
To side with Problem Bear for a moment, I don't like it when Gord SCREAMS instead of sings. But I've noticed that this tends to happen more while the performance is a television broadcast, or when the sound is not completely under the bands control.
Just my two cents though. I love the band, Gord is a genius when it comes to lyrics and performance. nuff said.
Doc

Yeah, I don't know why he does it more when he is on tv, T.V. gives them the opportunity to reach a ton of new fans, he should do the best singing job he can do, not some screaming that sounds like crud.

[AndGraceToo]

Very true that Gord is a complete package - and I admit when listening to Hip, especially live performances, that I imagine him and all his glory flopping around like a flounder, and even can be seen twitching in unison - however..

Now, come on, it was just a tad over the top..

I got a couple of these when watching it with a non-Hip fan (not anti, just unblessed)